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Title: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: Val on August 31, 2009, 04:50:34 PM
Hi all

I'm new here and looking for help from all you experts out there  :hlp:

I have a coffee set bought in Calcutta in the mid 1970s. On the bottom of the china it reads : Hitkari Potteries bone china made in India.

I also have a tea service left to me by my grandparents so do not know exact age but it would be old I'm sure. I am 55 and they had had it a while. On the bottom it reads Kenmare under which is a crown and then Fenton England.

If anyone can give me any information on these two sets I would be most obliged. I am looking to sell them as we are de-cluttering our house in readiness for a retirement move to Spain and I don't know whether to take them to a car boot sale or if they are worth something more.

Thank You

Val  :rn:
Title: Re: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 01, 2009, 07:03:50 PM
Welcome to the board. I suggest you look on ebay at sold items for value. Hitkari is still in existence as far as I can tell. As for Kenmare, it's not a name that appears in my giant book of marks. Photographs of both including marks might help.
Title: Re: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: Anne on September 01, 2009, 08:54:43 PM
Hi Val and welcome to the board.

The Replacements china matching site at www.replacements.com has entries for 2 Hitkari patterns, but no entry at all for Kenmare - can you double check the spelling and add some pics as Christine suggests please?
Title: Re: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: ChimpMad on September 09, 2009, 12:21:18 PM
It's possible that Kenmare will be the pattern name rather than a maker. It may be worth searching Fenton on ebay or similar and trying to match your pattern to whatever you find
Title: Re: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: Val on September 09, 2009, 03:50:55 PM
OK here are a couple of pics of each set

Cheers

Val

Sorry can't post site won't accept have downsized still no good. Won't bother waste of time.

Bye  :angry2:
Title: Re: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: Anne on September 10, 2009, 12:10:03 AM
Val, if your pics are too big for the board (and they have to be small enough for the server to be able to handle them - we don't unfortunately have the vast resources of the big piccie hosting co's), you can always send me the large images by email and I'll resize them and add to your topic for you. Email to pottery.board AT pottery.yobunny.com (change the AT to @ and close up the spaces to make the address valid.)
Title: Re: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: Anne on September 10, 2009, 04:25:19 PM
Pictures resized and added for Val.  The pattern doesn't match either of the Hitkari ones shown on replacements.com but this just means they only have details on two of the patterns so far. Hitkari are still in business so you could write to them and ask for more details - send them copies of the photos as well: http://www.thisismyindia.com/shopping/online-crockery-shop/

Kenmare would appear, as Bryan (Chimp Mad) said, to be the pattern name not the manufacturer* - the mark between Kenmare and Fenton England is that of Samuel Radford Ltd., of High Street, Fenton, Staffs, and dates (according to Robert Godden's Encyclopedia of British Pottery and Porcelain Marks) to c. 1925+. The Radford page on the Potteries website is here:
http://www.thepotteries.org/allpotters/836.htm - a variation of your mark (showing the SR monogram) is halfway down the page - they date that variant backstamp to slightly later at 1928+.

* Note, the pattern name isn't shown on replacements.com either but Radford's named many of their patterns after place names (Kenmare is a place in Ireland.)

Title: Re: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: Anne on September 10, 2009, 04:28:01 PM
Closeups of the patterns as well
Title: Re: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: ChimpMad on September 19, 2009, 12:58:23 AM
Just a thought about the Kenmare pieces; It was common practise for town councils to commission china services for use at official banquets and functions, and these services would often carry the town name. If a service became too small through breakage, and replacements couldn't be sourced for whatever reason, or if the council in question wanted a more modern set then the remainder of the old service would usually be sold off to help offset the cost of the new. I'm not saying for sure that this is where yours came from but it may be an avenue worth exploring.
Title: Re: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: antiquerose123 on September 19, 2009, 06:57:37 PM
Hey, that is new NEWS to me.......Thanks Chimpmad
Title: Re: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: lmj on September 19, 2009, 07:45:03 PM
a question for christine,how do you find sold items in ebay ? lynn
Title: Re: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: ChimpMad on September 20, 2009, 12:11:39 AM
Lynn, to find sold items you have to be signed into ebay and enter a search as normal. Once the results appear scroll down the screen and on the left there's a 'Preferences, Show Only...' section. Click on 'Completed Listings' and you get the ended listings.
Title: Re: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: lmj on September 20, 2009, 02:30:56 PM
thanks again chimpmad another of my questions answered....now,do you know where i left my car keys!!!! :)
Title: Re: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: ChimpMad on September 20, 2009, 05:23:03 PM
Probably on the kitchen table where you put them when you came in from the shop! :nah:
Title: Re: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: antiquerose123 on September 21, 2009, 10:50:31 AM
Probably on the kitchen table where you put them when you came in from the shop! :nah:

Where were U2 shopping together?  Ebay....lol  :24:
Title: Re: Help please on an indian coffeee set and an english tea service
Post by: lmj on September 21, 2009, 11:37:58 AM
now thats made me smile!!! :24: