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Title: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: keith on March 03, 2010, 02:07:28 PM
......African,but any idea where in Africa?
                                                          Keith.
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: antiquerose123 on March 05, 2010, 06:52:25 AM
Hi -- looks like a polished stone to me....or out in Left Field???

(....and Looks like me in the morning...lol)
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: Anne E.B. on March 07, 2010, 09:37:31 PM
I wonder if it could be soapstone? 
http://www.craftzoo.com/
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: keith on March 08, 2010, 12:54:56 AM
too hard for soapstone,got some on a Chinese cupboard,have found the carving is a 'Shona' woman,Zimbabwe,S.Africa region,if not serpentine maybe verdite,Keith.
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: olesparkleyes on March 08, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
I have long admired Zimbabwe stone carvings especially as I was born there but still don't have any as yet. Over the years some of the artists have gained worldwide recognition.

"Shona" is the name of the tribal family who traditionally inhabited central and Eastern Zimbabwe and parts of neighbouring countries and forms the majority of the population today. The old (english) name for the region was Mashonaland as most indigenous languages of this region use prefixes to denote "land of" and "people of". The use of the word Shona to denote this art is curious, possibly political but uncontentious under the current Zanu-PF administration.

I was under the impression that it all started with a farmer near Nyanga setting up a workshop on his farm for local carvers. However on googling now the history seems to be longer, more complex and more interesting than I had first thought.

It seems that key to bringing Zim sculpture to world attention was Frank McEwen, first director of the (then) Rhodes National Gallery, now the National Gallery of Zimbabwe, back in the 60's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_McEwen

So I guess it didn't start with the farmer but I do remember reading an article about him some years ago (hmmm could have been 20 or 30 years ago)  So I would imagine that the basics of the that story are true especially as Nyanga is in an upland area not far from Mount Nyangani, Zimbabwe's highest peak and a source of local stone I believe.

Soapstone has been used a lot for tourist pieces. My mum bought some pieces back on her return trips there.  But also a variety of other types stone for more serious / expensive works too. Serpentine is shown as one of the types of stone used here
 http://www.zimsculpt.com/stones.html

Unfortunately your flash has bleached out the dark base tone of your item. Does it have a greenish tinge ?
Pete
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: keith on March 08, 2010, 04:29:36 PM
Thanks for the info' Pete,had a look on the web some pieces are very expensive so I was lucky to grab this for just a few pounds,the stone colour is just like this image and a very similar piece,Keith.
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: olesparkleyes on March 08, 2010, 06:31:45 PM
That's fabulous ! Where did you find this photo ?
Did it not say what kind of stone it is there ?
Apparently Serpentine comes in more than 200 colour variations !!!
Where did you find you piece ?
I'd really like to find one I can afford.
Pete
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: keith on March 08, 2010, 06:55:56 PM
Good question,googling about I 'lifted' it from somewhere;don't remember what, if it said ,the stone was,found mine in a charity shop,lucky find I suppose,if ever I see another I'll keep it for you,Keith.
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: Anne on March 08, 2010, 11:00:29 PM
Arggghhh Keith! you can't go nicking images off Google and then post them onto the boards, you'll get us into bother!  8:)
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: keith on March 09, 2010, 01:20:39 AM
oops,sorry,should have known better,please delete image,
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: Anne on March 09, 2010, 03:00:11 AM
Done, ta Keith. :)
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: antiquerose123 on March 14, 2010, 11:46:56 AM
Whew....almost a  :pol: minute there.  Anne has not had to use THAT SMILEY for a long time.....lol.   
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: keith on March 14, 2010, 03:40:21 PM
 :sign_sorry: :sign_stupid:
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: antiquerose123 on March 15, 2010, 05:36:36 AM
Don't worry - Be happy.  That OK....now you know.:)
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: Anne on March 21, 2010, 09:19:56 PM
Keith, don't worry, we all forget sometimes! :kissy:
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: Tigerchips on March 21, 2010, 10:34:01 PM
Yeah, done it myself, posted some images from Millers collectables onto the GMB, naughty.  :ao:
Title: Re: Is this 'serpentine' and.....
Post by: antiquerose123 on March 24, 2010, 04:08:40 AM

Been there myself too......

...And they say you can't teach an  :old: :dog: New Tricks...lol.  Don't  worry...Be happy! ;D  :kissy: