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Collectables => Metalware & Metalwork => Topic started by: antiquerose123 on February 19, 2011, 05:09:57 AM

Title: Metal Bottle Opener....
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 19, 2011, 05:09:57 AM

I have a metal (old) bottle opener, but I have not taken any pics yet...but I can post the info that is on it, and can anyone help me.

It says on it:

CROWN OPENER
Pt #466444 (?Patent number ??)
Made in England
Reg # 811274

Can anyone help me date from that info? 

I will get some pics done asap.  Thanks  :kissy: :kissy:

Title: Re: Metal Bottle Opener....
Post by: keith on February 19, 2011, 02:25:59 PM

Had a quick look and it dates around 1936,will see what I can find about patent numbers,Keith.

Title: Re: Metal Bottle Opener....
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 19, 2011, 06:20:26 PM

Thanks Keith -- Gee it could soon be a 100 year old....thanks.  Let me know... :clap:

Title: Re: Metal Bottle Opener....
Post by: keith on February 20, 2011, 01:43:53 AM

Had no luck,there's loads of stuff about patent numbers but actually finding who did what where and when has had me going round in circles,be interesting to see a pic',
                                                                           Keith.

Title: Re: Metal Bottle Opener....
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 21, 2011, 08:29:06 PM

Here are some pics of it, finally...  :clap:  :blush: .....and you think almost 100 years old -- Wow!!!

Title: Re: Metal Bottle Opener....
Post by: Anne on February 22, 2011, 12:37:16 AM

Keith's right, both the RD no. and the Patent No. date from 1936. 

I found a mention of these here:
http://www.beercollections.com/Openers/Bottle-Openers.htm

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The other quite common type of cast iron opener that you see has the numbers RD. 811274 on one side and PT. 466444,

There was also one on eBay recently which has the same numbers but was made for Mackesons beers: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MACKESON-BOTTLE-OPENER-VERY-OLD-/110643240865

The (UK) patent no. 466444 citation is as follows:

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Abstract of GB 466444  (A)
466,444. Removing crown - corks. WILLETTS, C. T. May 12, 1936, No. 13389. [Class 125 (ii)] A flat prizing tool a, for removing crown-corks is formed oppositely to the prizing tongue d with one or more gripping teeth h, Fig. 4, f, g, Fig. 1, of the full thickness of the plate. The elongated hole e is of such size that the teeth impose a central pressure on the cap and the sides e<2>, e3 are lifted clear of the closure when in use.

If you go here:
http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=GB&NR=466444A&KC=A&FT=D&date=19370528&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_V3 (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=GB&NR=466444A&KC=A&FT=D&date=19370528&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_V3) and look you will see the abstract, the drawings, and a copy of the original patent filed.  8)

Title: Re: Metal Bottle Opener....
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 22, 2011, 03:23:44 AM

Thanks all -- good Sites there with the Patent drawing etc, and I did not stop to think that it was Cast Iron either -- DOH  :hb:

Thanks all....looked around some more now and found some other sites selling them for $10.00 (Pounds) so the price varies it seems -- like anything.

LOL   :clap: :clap:

Title: Re: Metal Bottle Opener....
Post by: keith on February 25, 2011, 08:06:08 PM

Used to open my beer with this  but since I gave up ale it's been sitting in the draw for who knows how long,same patent number and rgd number just like yours except for the 'Vimto' :o :thd:

Title: Re: Metal Bottle Opener....
Post by: Anne on February 25, 2011, 10:05:12 PM

What fun to find another version! I wonder how many different versions were made? Must have been a top seller in its day methinks.

Title: Re: Metal Bottle Opener....
Post by: Anne E.B. on February 26, 2011, 05:59:28 PM

These are still the best type bottle openers and have stood the test of time.
I can't be doing with all these new fangled fancy fiddly bottle openers.  Give me an old fashioned one any time ;)

Title: Re: Metal Bottle Opener....
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 27, 2011, 03:57:56 AM

Great to see another one!!!  :beer:  See Keith, now you have the info/date for yours too.  :beer:

Probably many still out there with different advertising on them but like Anne EB said -- "they have stood the test of time."   I bet there are lots of people that held on to them just like us.
 
.... ;D

Title: Re: Metal Bottle Opener....
Post by: roynmargaret on April 29, 2011, 05:39:03 PM

Here's a couple of more recent ones - probably c.1970 - work just the same  :new: