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Pottery => What's my Pottery? => Topic started by: kgldsun on August 26, 2011, 08:13:25 PM

Title: Toby Jugs
Post by: kgldsun on August 26, 2011, 08:13:25 PM

Hi, Can anybody please help with regards the mark and possibly are they worth anything please?
I have a pair of these Toby Jugs that are supposed to be old. Any help would be gratefully appreciated as I collect them and like to know about them.
Thank you :)

Title: Re: Toby Jugs
Post by: lilypot2007 on August 26, 2011, 09:05:12 PM

I am pretty sure it is German, and certainly in the Dresden style although not actually made in Dresden. It could be Potschappel or Rudolstadt (both established mid-late 19th Century). Potschapel I believe is still running. My guess would be on Rudolstadt or perhaps even Sandizell whom I know made figurines etc. It is not an exact science as there were very many german factories using the 'N' mark.
Hope this helps

Title: Re: Toby Jugs
Post by: Anne on August 26, 2011, 09:24:48 PM

Hi and welcome to the board. I've not seen a standing Toby jug before, they usually seem to be seated, so I wonder if that might run him to earth?  I was trying to figure out the mark - it looks like N and a device, but I'm undecided if it's a crown over N or N over something like a bell or a fetterlock?  Your Toby has a sweet face (many are plain ugly!) and no ale mug or pipe etc...  I wish I could help with him but I'm stumped. :(

Title: Re: Toby Jugs
Post by: kgldsun on August 26, 2011, 09:36:12 PM

Thank you so much for the information and kind words. Hopefully more will filter through!
I have never heard of a fetterlock but agree that close up it doesnt look too like a crown.
It does appear though as lilypot points out, in the 'dresden' style.

Title: Re: Toby Jugs
Post by: Anne on August 26, 2011, 09:46:00 PM

It's a device found in heraldry (I'm into family history as well! :)) - see here http://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/Jpglossf.htm scroll down the F's and there are several examples of fetterlocks in heraldic images. :)

Title: Re: Toby Jugs
Post by: lilypot2007 on August 26, 2011, 10:51:36 PM

I could be completely on the wrong tracks but I have looked again at my research notes, originally for Capodimonte figures. Hopefully these links may be of some use:

http://users.skynet.be/rutrene/marks33.html

http://www.figurines-sculpture.com/german-crown-mark-with-n-porcelain-mark-a-j-uffrecht-co-figurine.html

I am sure between us we can narrow down the search for you

Title: Re: Toby Jugs
Post by: kgldsun on August 26, 2011, 10:55:19 PM

Many thanks Lilypot. I think you are exactly right when you say capodimonte. I have just had a brief look (as my bed is calling!) and will continue tomorrow.
Thanks again.