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Pottery => British & Irish => Topic started by: Tigerchips on November 04, 2007, 07:49:37 PM

Title: Sunderland Lustre
Post by: Tigerchips on November 04, 2007, 07:49:37 PM
I think this odd drinking cup comes from either Newcastle or Sunderland, though Sunderland Lustre was made elseware. It isn't marked so it's difficult to tell.

It's odd because the base is so thin it should fall over when filled with water but it doesn't. It's impossible to tip it over without pushing it with great force. It might be cracked, not sure, it might just be crasing. Anyway, it was only 50p.

It's my first piece of Sunderland Lustre and I'm not surprised that it's really collectable as it's stunning.  :thd:

Title: Re: Sunderland Lustre
Post by: Tigerchips on February 17, 2008, 07:15:21 PM
I wonder if it was used inside a boat. It won't fall over you see, hmmmm?
Title: Re: Sunderland Lustre
Post by: Anne on February 17, 2008, 10:22:11 PM
What an interesting bottom, TC! ;)  I've never seen one like it before, not heard of Sunderland Lustre either. Neat piece though. :)
Title: Re: Sunderland Lustre
Post by: Tigerchips on February 18, 2008, 12:34:47 AM
It was called Sunderland Lustre but was also made in Newcastle and elseware. This isn't your usual piece, they usually have scenes on them.

Do any of these ring a bell?
Google Sunderland Lustre (http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=%22sunderland+lustre%22&ndsp=20&um=1&hl=en&start=0&sa=N)
Title: Re: Sunderland Lustre
Post by: Anne on February 18, 2008, 01:14:33 AM
No they don't TC,  perhaps it wasn't popular over this side of the country?
Title: Re: Sunderland Lustre
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 18, 2008, 03:00:47 PM
What an interesting bottom, TC! ;) 

 :o :o :o >:D :taped: :thd:  :24: :jstr: :jstr:
Title: Re: Sunderland Lustre
Post by: Anne on February 18, 2008, 11:44:21 PM
 :sign_oops: 

Rose, trust you!  :thd:  :P   :24:
Title: Re: Sunderland Lustre
Post by: Tigerchips on May 12, 2008, 09:13:42 AM
This may not be Sunderland Lustre as I've been told that it should be translucent when held up to a bright light. Stafforshire Lustre then...

Maybe a childs beaker?
Title: Re: Sunderland Lustre
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 12, 2008, 12:33:26 PM
 :beer:

I think you might be on the right track with Newcastle, rather than Sunderland, the glaze isn't quite the right texture for Sunderland.

Also quite possibly right with the child's beaker - with it being difficult to tip over.
Denise Robbins (agony aunt) collects Sunderland Lustre. How's that for useless info?
Title: Re: Sunderland Lustre
Post by: Lustrousstone on May 17, 2008, 08:33:35 PM
It would only be translucent if it was china rather than earthenware. Was Sunderland lustre china?
Title: Re: Sunderland Lustre
Post by: Tigerchips on May 17, 2008, 09:54:38 PM
Oh? Probably earthernware. I read somewere that not all stoneware is opaque so I wonder if   that goes with earthernware too?  :-\
Title: Re: Sunderland Lustre
Post by: Lustrousstone on May 18, 2008, 12:52:08 PM
Scroll down here (http://www.britannica.com/eb/topic-176172/earthenware) and see what you think
Title: Re: Sunderland Lustre
Post by: Tigerchips on May 18, 2008, 08:24:53 PM
This may not be Sunderland Lustre as I've been told that it should be translucent when held up to a bright light...

Maybe it's the other way around.  :taped:
Title: Re: Sunderland Lustre
Post by: jess on June 03, 2008, 11:51:01 PM
Sunderland Lustre is a generic term, it doesn't necessarily come from Sunderland itself; anywhere in the North East would qualify, and lustre ware is often called Sunderland lustre although it might have been made anywhere. It is generally earthenware but much bone china has lustre decoration too. Your piece would usually be referred to as 'splash' lustre for obvious reasons. I would say it is from the north East & the base does look very odd; do you think it might have had a stem which has been ground off?
Title: Re: Sunderland Lustre
Post by: Tigerchips on June 04, 2008, 09:08:25 AM
Hi, and welcome to the board.  :)

I thought maybe it had been ground down when I first saw it. But then it shows signs of age so if it has it must have been done early on in it's life.
 It's possible that it may have been a cup like this one without a handle (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/images/pinkcup2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/sunderland_plate_and_cup.htm&h=263&w=283&sz=21&hl=en&start=34&um=1&tbnid=TXsqcI7aq0hDmM:&tbnh=106&tbnw=114&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsunderland%2Blustre%2Bcup%26start%3D18%26ndsp%3D18%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN)

Although the foot would have been smaller on mine. Another possibility is that it was originally a goblet.