Let's Talk About Pottery & Collectables
Pottery => British & Irish => Topic started by: a40ty on November 26, 2007, 10:37:06 AM
-
Good morning everyone, hope you can help.
I inherited this from my grandmother and am curious to know of it's origins.It is 14 cms tall, 16 cms wide and 13? cms deep. It isn't very pretty but I reckon it would make quite cathedrally jellies :)
It isn't possible to decifer the words above the stamp, other than the first word is "THE"
Hope to hear from you!
-
It might be Wileman & Co (Shelley) as they made jelly moulds.
-
http://www.thepotteries.org/mark/w/wileman.html
-
:clap: :clap:
Thank you Tigerchips! It is indeed a Wileman & Co, although their jelly moulds were much prettier on the outside. Perhaps my grandmother bought a second or a fake :o certainly looks like it..
-
I have no knowledge of the way things are moulded but it's as if it's been pressed into a mould by hand from the outside, I'll have a look in some of my books to see if I can find anything similar.
-
I think this would be called a 'Carlton' design. I have found plenty of Shelley Jelly moulds but none are mentioned to have the mark of Wileman & Co. I have also seen a few similar to yours with the mould only on the inside, those ones date to the 19th century but I found no Shelley ones like this.
http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170152979593
Millers says that the deep indentation on the top surface is an area for the cream to be poured over the top.
-
The mark is for 1890 - 1910 according to this site.
http://www.shelley.co.uk/backstamps.html
The registration number dates the design to > 1904
(http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:JO8RCIAFsAwJ:www.shelley.co.uk/regnumbers.html+wileman%22430326%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk)
-
The mark is for 1890 - 1910 according to this site.
http://www.shelley.co.uk/backstamps.html
The registration number dates the design to > 1904
(http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:JO8RCIAFsAwJ:www.shelley.co.uk/regnumbers.html+wileman%22430326%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk)
I had found the first link but the second, with the date... :sun: Thank you for going to so much trouble. It's really nice to know the age of something.I think this would be called a 'Carlton' design. I have found plenty of Shelley Jelly moulds but none are mentioned to have the mark of Wileman & Co. I have also seen a few similar to yours with the mould only on the inside, those ones date to the 19th century but I found no Shelley ones like this.
http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170152979593
Millers says that the deep indentation on the top surface is an area for the cream to be poured over the top.
I'm curious, or , more likely thick ::) And have never, ever made a jelly. ;D What do you think Millers mean by that? Don't you just turn said jelly out of the mould and slosh the cream over it ?
If you ever find out anything about the outer surface, I'd really appreciate it.
-
More likely to give you somewhere to put a nice thick wodge of whipped cream and a few decorative bits and pieces without it all sliding down the sides
-
Aha! Hadn't thought of that.. this one has only room for a serious dieter's ration of cream :'( and perhaps a single raspberry.. :fstv:
-
I am begining to wonder if this was meant for meat's covered in aspic/ such as pressed ham? it may accoun t for the thick outer.