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Pottery => British & Irish => Topic started by: josordoni on December 31, 2007, 02:17:40 PM

Title: Clarice Cliff
Post by: josordoni on December 31, 2007, 02:17:40 PM
Clarice is the one thing that leaves me totally cold. I really don't understand why collectors will pay such huge sums for something so basic....

For the same price as a Bonjour teapot, just think what Poole you could get!!!

Title: Clarice Cliff
Post by: dantheman on December 31, 2007, 02:34:33 PM
I was told some time ago that Clarice Cliff designs were originally meant to Make a load of seconds look bright and Jolly so they could be sold to the poor and depressed people of Britain in a time of hardship .Is this true?
I have never been a fan of C C,her work could not be compared with that of John Butler who worked in the factory at that time,a true ceramic design genius (in my humble opinion)
Title: Re: Clarice Cliff
Post by: josordoni on December 31, 2007, 03:19:33 PM
No, not to my taste either.... I think that CSA Poole for one is much much better quality than CC yet makes nowhere near the heights her collectors will pay...

Title: Re: Clarice Cliff
Post by: Anne on December 31, 2007, 05:09:01 PM
There are some Clarice Cliff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarice_Cliff) patterns I've seen which I like but most don't do much for me. These are useful sites for those who do like the designs: http://www.claricecliff.co.uk/ and http://www.claricecliff.com/

I much prefer her contemporaries:  Charlotte Rhead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Rhead) and Susie Cooper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susie_Cooper).
Title: Re: Clarice Cliff
Post by: Anne on January 02, 2008, 02:32:56 AM
I just found a site with some CC patterns I've not seen before. They are not as garish as some of the others: http://www.sheryls-artdeco.co.uk/ceramics1.html I rather like the Mowcop tureen.
Title: Re: Clarice Cliff
Post by: Sue C on January 02, 2008, 08:49:12 AM
That's really interesting Anne, as i would have sworn the second photo was of Mailing pieces????
Title: Re: Clarice Cliff
Post by: dantheman on January 02, 2008, 12:50:22 PM
But they were making pottery like this at Wilkinson at that time.
Title: Re: Clarice Cliff
Post by: josordoni on January 02, 2008, 12:57:10 PM
and there is absolutely NO WAY that they're gonna get ?145 for a Celtic Harvest bowl - they're worth about ?50 to ?75 absolute toppety tops!

all of the later Clarice stuff is overpriced on this site - in fact without wishing to denegrate the site at all - which is very good, attractive and well set out - I think all the prices are a little on the steep side.  But my mental price list tends to eBay prices, so I am out of touch with prices that pieces can reach in the normal retail trade.

Title: Re: Clarice Cliff
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 02, 2008, 01:00:37 PM
There is some lovely stuff but the prices, particularly for damaged items... :o
Title: Re: Clarice Cliff
Post by: josordoni on January 02, 2008, 01:07:06 PM
(http://www.yobunny.com/pottery/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3340.0;attach=12296;image)
But they were making pottery like this at Wilkinson at that time.

Just a tad nicer, Dan....... ::)
Title: Re: Clarice Cliff
Post by: josordoni on January 02, 2008, 01:20:40 PM
Maybe you could contact Sheryl and see if she would like to buy it......8)
Title: Re: Clarice Cliff
Post by: josordoni on January 02, 2008, 01:50:17 PM
HMMMMM..... I've got a really rare Poole twintone teaset in seagull.... any interest?  I thought about ?500....... :24::24::24::24::24::24::24::24:
Title: Re: Clarice Cliff
Post by: josordoni on January 02, 2008, 02:01:56 PM
Maybe you could contact Sheryl and see if she would like to buy it......8)

Believe it or not..... I am actually putting my sales into excel for my VAT this morning.... and have just discovered that last month I sold something to Sheryl!  Good quick payer she was too... how about that for synchronicity?

Title: Re: Clarice Cliff
Post by: Anne on January 02, 2008, 06:36:11 PM
I wasn't commenting on the prices as they weren't relevant to the topic really, but using the site as a source of pattern identification.  I think we all have our own views about pricing on sites and eBay etc. ;)
Title: Re: Clarice Cliff
Post by: josordoni on January 02, 2008, 06:44:14 PM
There is no doubt that Sheryl has some lovely things...

I'm only jealous really!   :mrgreen:

It is a good site for id, shame that there is no search function.