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Collectables => Timepieces, Barometers & other Instruments => Topic started by: a40ty on January 29, 2008, 06:15:57 AM

Title: Pocket watch, european perhaps?
Post by: a40ty on January 29, 2008, 06:15:57 AM

Hi guys, at Antiquerose's suggestion, am posting this with a hope for ID. Know diddleysquat about watches so if I use all the wrong words, please forgive  ;)

It's 5cm in diameter and in running order.
There is nothing engraved or stamped on the works apart from a number and A/F on the wee pendulum thing.
 Apart from the centre stamps, there is no fewer than 4 sets of engraving on the inside of the case. A definite 4128V, 5015V, a possible SNTS and another one that I can't read because it just too tiny. The number 162767 on the inside of the case is repeated on the inside of the works casing.
Any ideas?

Title: Re: Pocket watch, european perhaps?
Post by: Tigerchips on January 29, 2008, 08:57:22 AM

Is it Gold, Silver ,both, none?

Can we have a close up of the marks on the inside of the case please?

Title: Re: Pocket watch, european perhaps?
Post by: a40ty on January 29, 2008, 05:13:20 PM

It's gold  :)
Here's the closeup:

Title: Re: Pocket watch, european perhaps?
Post by: a40ty on January 29, 2008, 05:14:20 PM

Should have said that the stamp to the left, as you are looking at it, seems to be a squirrel.

Title: Re: Pocket watch, european perhaps?
Post by: a40ty on January 30, 2008, 06:04:10 AM

I have actually got some info from another board ( a link from a link from a link, thank you Antiquerose  :) ) ; that it is a swiss lever movement, probably produced between 1900 and WW1. Pretty old  ;)
Here's the forum:
http://nawcc-mb.com/
National Association of Watch and Clock collectors.

Title: Re: Pocket watch, european perhaps?
Post by: antiquerose123 on January 30, 2008, 08:23:50 AM

http://www.thegoldsmiths.co.uk/assayoffice/currenthallmarks.htm  about halfway down it shows crown in a square (not a circle like yours) but that means gold (as yours does say 14k but the crown mark is another symbol for gold...just what date the crown in a square  verus a crown in a circle ??? ...then I note the numbers 0585 also...which confirm gold again.....

AND what about these sites: 

http://ezinearticles.com/?Helping-to-Identify-Gold-Hallmarks&id=378699
http://www.thomas-skipton.co.uk/Hallmarks.htm
http://www.topsieraden.nl/front/learnmore/dutchmarks.htm
http://home.wxs.nl/~luijt005/hallm.htm

Title: Re: Pocket watch, european perhaps?
Post by: a40ty on February 06, 2008, 05:55:29 AM

Thanks for the links, Antiquerose. Will follow them up, just been too busy lately!

Title: Re: Pocket watch, european perhaps?
Post by: a40ty on February 15, 2008, 05:56:40 AM

A couple of useful links here..
http://home.wxs.nl/~luijt005/hallm.htm

http://www.artlex.com/ArtLex/H.html