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Pottery => What's my Pottery? => Topic started by: Elaine on August 21, 2007, 11:17:06 AM

Title: Anyone ID these Bone China plates?
Post by: Elaine on August 21, 2007, 11:17:06 AM

Pretty pink-tinted plates, no idea where made, other than 'in England'!  ???

Title: Re: Anyone ID these Bone China plates?
Post by: josordoni on August 21, 2007, 05:20:38 PM

Can't help on these much I'm afraid, other than to say that I think they look very 1940s / 50s both in the style of the decoration and the backstamp.

Title: Re: Anyone ID these Bone China plates?
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 21, 2007, 08:49:08 PM

But is kt normally used in England. I'm not sure that English gilding is usually specified as being gold (which it  is/was) and I would also expect to see 22ct. Neither of my dictionaries give kt as the English abbreviation. It's either fake English or made for sale abroad. I would also expect an English pottery that went to the trouble of marking the gold quality to use a proper backstamp. What's the quality like?

Title: Re: Anyone ID these Bone China plates?
Post by: Elaine on August 21, 2007, 10:00:45 PM

I would have said they are not top quality, Christine.  They are quite sturdy although fine, and there are a couple of little areas underneath where the glaze is just a tiny bit rough.  I would guess 40's is about right Lynne, as they came from an old friend of my mother's. 

I must admit, the kt confused me, and I would have thought they were continental if not for the 'Made in England'!  ???

Here's a closer pic of the pattern.  The pink glaze is sort of iridescent, which I found hard to capture in a photograph. 

Title: Re: Anyone ID these Bone China plates?
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 22, 2007, 08:51:18 AM

 ???

I'm a little bit bothered by the 22 carats as well as the karat business.
I'm not sure 22 was an English/uk thing - 9, 14 and 24 was what I thought we had.
Could the china have been made in england, but it got decorated somewhere else?
This kind of pinky/pearly irridesence is something I associate a lot with Czech china.

Title: Re: Anyone ID these Bone China plates?
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 22, 2007, 12:18:18 PM

24 carat is pure gold and as gold paint for gilding has added ingredients, most of which burn off on firing, 22 ct sounds a reasonable figure. Here is a page explaining gold and carats (karats) http://www.gold.org/jewellery/technology/caratage/index.html (http://www.gold.org/jewellery/technology/caratage/index.html).

My thoughts about the pink and irridescence were Czech too

Title: Re: Anyone ID these Bone China plates?
Post by: Elaine on August 22, 2007, 12:26:25 PM

I suppose there's nothing to stop them saying the plates were made in England, even if they were decorate elsewhere?  ???