Topic: Porcelain Teaset ID Help needed by member c91191 (Kathy)

[Anne]

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'My brother bought this tea set for my mom when he was in the service over seas in the 1950's. It is green with gold brushed strokes and is trimmed in gold.  On the bottom it has a thorn crown and the words Bavaria Follis or Follin Salvream.  Could you help me find out anything about it.  I have joined and contacted seems like everyone I can and no one can give a solid answer about this tea set.  I bought another one from ebay that has the crown and Salvream and the gentlemen I bought it off of said it was Italian.  Has the same brushed strokes of gold and has pictures of Italy on each piece.  Then I was told by someone it was German made by Seltmann.  Huh?Huh???  I'm confused.  Kathy'

[Anne]

Sale pic here seems to be the same mark, but slightly clearer. Definitely says Bavaria... http://pics.auctionpal.com/pic/3561

Edited to add, it doesn't appear to match the Seltmann marks shown here:
http://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/bavaria/vohenstrauss_1/00.php or here
http://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/bavaria/weiden_1/00.php

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I did wonder if it was Jollin/Jollis or Tollin/Tollis...? The last word does appear to be Salvream, and Googling brings up several similar teasets, all with Salvream on the base. Was that the pattern name, or the place or what, I wonder? 

Ohhhh look, I just found another... with an added label... Originally made in Denmark!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200151432760

[c91191]

 
      I would like to thank everyone for all there effort.  At last I still have places to look.
THanks
Kathy

[Lustrousstone]

Hi Kathy There is no reason why china made in Bavaria shouldn't have pictures of Italy on it. Most likely it was made for export to Italy for sale as middle market tourist ware. I have a little glass water jug that I know was made in the USA with pictures of rye and Souvenir of Winnipeg printed on it.

You also find tea sets with identical patterns that were made in England but the cups made for the home market are quite deep and upright, the ones made for the North American are the wide and shallow continental style like yours. Many companies changed or decorated their wares to suit the ultimate market

[ginfor]

Your best bet is to contact Chris Marshall, the site owner of porcelainmarksandmore.com, although he does sometimes take a while to respond if he's obsessing with one of his projects. You'll need a better picture of the mark, however.

Also, it's quite common for the porcelain whiteware to be made by one company and decorated somewhere else.  Pull your fingernail across the mark.  If you don't feel the mark well, then it's probably underglaze and likely to be the porcelain maker.  If you can feel the mark, the it's overglaze and likely to be the decorating company (which may or may not be the maker).

Forrest

[c91191]

  Thank you for your help.  I will be sure to contact Chris and check out the mark and I will get back to you.
Thanks Again
Kathy

[tom3179]

Hi Im new on this website
Joining to question. I bought on town market 3 tea cup, and they are signed in the the same way sign like tea set desribed by Anne. Bavaria Follin Salvream. Do somebody know where/what/when they were maked? Regards
Tom

[c91191]

I also found out that it is part of joananna seltmann  I would still like to see an appraisal.

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