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Shell motif English bowl
« on: March 02, 2009, 05:50:47 PM »
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I've had this a long time and have never found out who made it.  I'm hoping it will be easy for someone here.  The bowl is china, I don't think thin enough to be called porcelain but what do I know!  There's a farm scene transfer that has some white enamel accents on it.  It's a serving bowl 12 3/4" long 2 1/2" deep.  It has a mark with an anchor and I think a Z, S, CI and B9.  Any help will be greatly appreciated!!  Thanks for looking.
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Re: Shell motif English bowl
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2009, 06:56:54 PM »
I'm not sure really but it might be one of these two companies...

Oscar Schaller & Co
http://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/bavaria/schwarzenbach_1/00.php

Zeh, Scherzer & Co
http://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/bavaria/rehau_1/00.php

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Re: Shell motif English bowl
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 07:27:02 PM »
I guess that's not an English mark!  The mark is sure like the first one under Schwarzenbach except the "O" where mine has a "Z".   So it probably came from Bavaria, thanks for that info!
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Re: Shell motif English bowl
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2009, 11:16:27 PM »
I'd be very surprised if it's not Porzellanfabrik Oscar Schaller & Co.  looking at your backstamp and the one shown in TC's link: http://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/bavaria/schwarzenbach_1/00.php

BTW I'm moving this to the What's My Pottery forum as it seems to have got itself lost in Misc collectables  ;)
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Re: Shell motif English bowl
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2009, 07:16:25 AM »


I'd be very surprised if it's not Porzellanfabrik Oscar Schaller & Co.  looking at your backstamp and the one shown in TC's link: http://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/bavaria/schwarzenbach_1/00.php  BTW I'm moving this to the What's My Pottery forum as it seems to have got itself lost in Misc collectables  ;)


That is a very nice scalloped dish there  :clap: and very good link there, as always..
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Re: Shell motif English bowl
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2009, 12:12:33 AM »
I decided to email the site Pottery Marks and More and here is the wonderful reply I got!anice,

"Another example why pictures say more than a thousand words - not Oscar Schaller. And I nearly missed it in my archive as the one you have is listed under 'R', has a minor addition and is flagged 'mostly printed'.

Per description I would have missed it as it's not one of those I have memorized ... anyway, would be great if you could send me the original unclipped or newly taken shot of that mark as I don't have exactly *your* version and I'm always looking for clear pics to add to my archive/website.

But back to the plot: the mark in it's printed form has a banner over it reading 'SCHUTZMARKE' (registered trademark) and two additional laurel twigs horizontally pointing left and right from the middle underneath the anchor. My scanner kicked the bucket so I can't scan at the moment but I guess you get the picture (LOL!).

Now, the top of your anchor looks funny - that is the letter 'R' with it's left 'leg' connecting to the vertical anchor bar. Then we have the 'Z' on the shaft, then 'S' on the left side plus finally a funny 'C'-squiggle on the right - that's 'Co' :)

Gives us "R. Z. S. Co." and that's easy: ta-da! company was "Zeh, Scherzer & Co." from the town of Rehau in Bavaria. Marking registered (together with another one) at the "Koenigliches Amtsgericht Rehau" (Royal District Court in Rehau) on August 3rd 1882; the mark itself was used until 1896. The successor mark is another one of those where I only have a vague sketch and description so far, so I need to get pronto and update the site :)

Location and manufacturer found, mark dated and happy. Only thing I can't help with is a value or sorts as I am absolutely no good at that. Marks and history is my cup of tea but everything else ... beep! brain timeout!

LOL! Hope that helps,
Chris"
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Re: Shell motif English bowl
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2009, 07:10:14 PM »
Ohhh thanks Janice, so TC was right in his 2nd suggestion  :clap: and I was totally wrong!  :fby: Well done TC and Chris at PM&M of course.  :beer:
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