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Offline SteveT

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Decorated plate and base mark
« on: March 27, 2009, 02:50:07 PM »
New member here - Glen's other half  :). I have a couple of pottery items that were my mother's. I'd like to find out something about them so that I can either keep them to pass on to my own children, or take to the charity shop. I've tried to do a bit of searching on the 'net, but I'm fairly clueless wrt pottery etc.

So, here's one item that we both think is very pretty and it has an unusual mark on its base. It's a decorated plate about 8" across.

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Re: Decorated plate and base mark
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2009, 08:11:22 PM »
From Miller's pottery & porcelain marks...

Royal Arms Staffordshire Type Marks
Those engraved after 1837 feature the quartered shield, but pre-1837 arms have an extra shield (inescutcheon) in the centre. From 1801-14 the shield is capped; 1814-37 the inescutcheon is crowned.

I think that would be 1801-14 for this one then.
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Re: Decorated plate and base mark
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2009, 09:53:35 PM »
Thanks, TC - I really appreciate your help and info.

Steve
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Re: Decorated plate and base mark
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2009, 04:15:32 PM »
As far as I can tell from Goodden, it looks like a version used by Hicks, Meigh & Johnson of Shelton, Staffordshire, 1822-1835 with the wooden shelfy bit and the flowers. I know that's a bit newer than TC's date but the pattern number being there also fits.
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Re: Decorated plate and base mark
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2009, 05:14:10 PM »
Wonderful! Grateful thanks for the information, Christine.  We're indebted to you and to TC for your very kind help.

Steve
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Re: Decorated plate and base mark
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2009, 05:56:28 PM »
It's not often we can do anything for the Thistlewoods; it's usually the other way round.
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Re: Decorated plate and base mark
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2009, 06:16:06 PM »
Christine, I'm trying to find icons to do a "hug"! (I'm not very familiar with message boards). In the absence of an icon, please accept a grateful thank you.

Steve
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Re: Decorated plate and base mark
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2009, 04:19:14 PM »
Steve welcome, it's lovely to have you here. And we do have huggy smileys as well...  :hug:  click the [more] at the end of the normal smileys and you get a whole new popup full of them ;)

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Re: Decorated plate and base mark
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2009, 05:55:55 PM »
Beautiful plate there!!
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Re: Decorated plate and base mark
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2009, 07:48:09 PM »
 :hug: Aha! Thanks Anne. Lots for me to play with there.

Steve
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Re: Decorated plate and base mark
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2009, 12:37:00 PM »
We've been called the smiley-est board on the internet,  Steve!  (My son was given the task of finding them for us and he went to town.)  :24:
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Re: Decorated plate and base mark
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2009, 07:32:43 PM »
It looks a bit like the HMJ5 pattern shown here...
https://www.replacements.com/webquote/HMJHMJ5.htm
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Re: Decorated plate and base mark
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2009, 10:26:39 PM »
There's a not very clear example of the shelf mark Christine means here http://www.thepotteries.org/mark/h/hicksmj.html
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Re: Decorated plate and base mark
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2009, 10:30:57 PM »
Bingo! A HMJ plate on this page is the same shape as yours Steve: http://www.luc.edu/publications/medieval/vol6/6ch9.html (scroll down about half way.
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Re: Decorated plate and base mark
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2009, 02:59:42 PM »
All great information there....SUPER.  :clap2: :clap2:  And THIS board is the smiley-est board around, and has the GREATEST PEOPLE AS ALWAYS.

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